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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 September 2009, 8:18 PM
gaz
Joined 18 Oct 2008
3 posts

hi gary im new to this forum but from what i read if you dont know the answer god help everyone,my problrm is this i have recently bought a 30 year old motorhome which is fitted with a cascade water heater not sure which model its got a red reset button on the end and the control panel has 3 led lights and a on button and off button,i tried to light it on gas the other day and could hear clicking and sounded like the gas lit but then the red warning light comes on and its not lit anymore,i tried it severaltimes with the same result,today i turned on the cold tap and started the pumps and water blew oui of the side plug at a rapid rate this does not happen when the hot tap is on only when i run cold on its own,i fitted another and tried it again but now there is nothing happening no clicking or anything just the red alarm light on its own every time,do you have any idea as to how to cure this and get it working many thanks gary

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 12:49 PM
thepadster
Joined 15 May 2009
40 posts

Hi there got a problem with my carver cascade mk 2 gas water heater ,went to france for 2 weeks in the van noticed that when i put the water heater on we had some slightly black smoke comiming from the outside cowl but it still managed to heat the water , then the last day could not get it to work so i took off the cowl and cover to find the burner unit was all clogged up with black soot, cleaned it out and got it to work , but im not happy with the blake smoke so my question is , do i need to replace the burner unit and is that what the fault is
cheers

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 4:39 PM
gaz
Joined 18 Oct 2008
3 posts

hello everyone im new to this forum so hopefully someone may be able to help me,i have a carver cascade water heater not sure of the model its got a red reset button on the end and the control panel has two buttons on and off and 3 led lights if that makes it clearer,the problem is it works fine on mains but on gas when i switch it on the burner lights for about 10 seconds and then shuts off and the red alarm light is on on the control panel i have tried it quite a few times with the same result does anyone know what would cause this or how to fix it thanks gary

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 10:44 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Sorry for the delay in replying to these last few questions but I'm forever busy these days and finding it hard to find the time.
I know it's not easy trawling through past Q&A's but if I know the answers been given plenty of times before, I'll be reluctant to repeat an answer again while I'm so busy.





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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 10:56 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Gaz, as above this has been covered many times before, you need a replacement part and when you get it from me, it comes with a help sheet showing exactly how it's changed.

Please contact direct for details


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 11:06 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Sl, you have the smaller 830W element so it is a bit slow, however, it should be giving some hot water after half an hour.

Not really sure what might be wrong if anything? I've heard it said limescale building up on the element will cause this but I'm sceptical about that?

Perhaps it's not working at all? the resistance across the element pins should be 84 to 90 ohms, across the two thermostats you should have no resistance


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
13 September 2009, 11:31 PM
-  Edited by gary 14 September 2009, 0:01 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Gaz again, your 'burner module' is faulty, this could be something to do with the leak if water has got into modules control black box under the tank.

It may dry out and then work but if not, or not wet, then it will need replacing and you can get a serviced exchange module from me.

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Padster, you have a yellow flame instead of a bright blue one, this is the cause of the smoke, the soot, and plenty of carbon monoxide!!

Solution is to replace the 'burner module', you can get that from me on a serviced exchange basis a lot more cheaply than new.

Please contact direct for details


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 3:15 AM
purdiegood
Joined 14 Sep 2009
1 posts

Maybe a bit late to help you but I recently repaired one of these. Could help others? 1. drill out but end of central rod using a drill about the tapping size for the thread. Retap the hole to suit a replacement stainless steel threaded rod, about 12 mm. When you have the new threaded hole, cut the threaded rod to length and install using some RTV as a thread seal. Reassemble heater tank, sealing with some RTV as you go to ensure water tightness. Check for any leaks and return to service.
Brian


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:04 AM
sl
Joined 14 Jun 2009
3 posts

hi gary,thanks for the reply.
I am away this weekend so will give it a proper tryout to see if the elctric does work.the dealers just had it on for half an hour and it did show signs of vague warmth,so will see if it warms the water enough...presumably I would need the element replacing if it was failing[do they fail progressively or is it a case of one day they give up the ghost having worked the day before? }.thanks for your valuable info. anywaya-such knowledge really is priceless.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 7:28 PM
Mike
Joined 30 May 2007
4 posts

Hi Gary, My Carver Cascade 2GE doesn't work on gas (plenty of gas on board and battery ok) but it works ok on 240v on my '93 Ducato. I haven't really bothered about it but I find that now I am using more and more cl's with no electric so gas powered hot water would be an asset. At the last habitation check I recall being told tha something has 'burnt out' on the gas side of the water heater ... sorry to be so vague but I just cannot remember what I was told at the time!

Any suggestions??

Also what is the difference between the Cascade 2 and the Cascade 2GE?

Many Thanks,

Mike


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 8:28 PM
gaffer125
Joined 14 Sep 2009
1 posts

HI help!! I have a cascade mk1 water heater when i turn on light is green and i can hear clicking then green light flashers, also i had a look underneath and moved a pipe and it snapped, so i need to replace this think its the return hot white plastic in an L shapped, looking under the van its the one nearest the side but should probebly do both i need the parts ? where to get them, ta matt

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 8:59 PM
thepadster
Joined 15 May 2009
40 posts

Hi gary , for some reason i cant seem to email you through outlook express ,i would like to buy heater module for cascade mk 2 gas water heater ,can you let me know how to sort out payment cheers bud
paul

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:07 PM
HIYA10
Joined 13 Jan 2009
1 posts

i have a 1994 abi jubilee rallyman this weekend carver water heater failed to ignight untill i pressed area around burner any ideas please battery voltage fine

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:11 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Si, half an hour an you get half a tank of 'hot' water not vaguely hot, test it out and get back to me


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:16 PM
-  Edited by gary 14 September 2009, 11:22 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Mike, I'm afraid your description is far to vague to offer any real suggestions, you will need to try and give me more to go on

The Cascade 2 is gas only heating, the GE stands for gas/electric and is simply adding 240v electric heating to the basic model


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:27 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Gaffer, I have all the common spares needed for the mk1 Cascade, your original problem sounds like the gas valves not opening and this probably means it's overheated and blown the thermal fuse
The fuse connects the green/yellow wire to the blue earth wire, make sure then you have continuity between these to wires.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:37 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Paul, you should not have a problem but ring me if you like, I don't post prices on the forum


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
14 September 2009, 11:48 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Hiya10, the only thing that springs to mind is one of the nuts that holds the burner to the bracket is loose, this is also an earth connection and by pressing your improving the connection.

I can say 1994 as far as 'vintage' goes is the best


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 September 2009, 10:29 AM
Mike
Joined 30 May 2007
4 posts

Thanks Gary ... I'll dig deeper :)

Regards,

Mike


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 September 2009, 9:38 PM
Nathan
Joined 24 Jun 2007
1 posts

Hi there, I have a Valliant water heater in my 1987 Express Autosleeper. In normal conditions the boiler is lit and the pilot light is on. I turn the hot water tap on and the boiler fires up and heats the water instantly. The shower has never been right as the hose was 'teed' off the hot water outlet and obviously was always boiling hot. So this week i have changed it, and put the shower hose on the mixer outlet at the bottom of the boiler in the middle. Plumbed it all in and lit the boiler, pilot light is normal. Turn the hot water on and the boiler doesn't fire up and heat the water. Any ideas??

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