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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 0:38 AM
Meljoe
Joined 30 Aug 2005
10 posts

Gary thanks for that, it is the pressure Relief Valve I need. I cant find your address either, you say its under the ERS symbol in the lefthand corner but I cant even see the ERS symbol.

I have checked my fire and it is the 1800


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 10:56 AM
-  Edited by gary 31 August 2005, 10:57 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Are we clicking on the link to my website girls??
Here>>> http://www.arcsystems.biz
If you still have problems ring me 0115 9213175


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 11:06 AM
Finbar
Joined 17 Jul 2005
8 posts

hi there Gary,,

When I turn on my mk 2 cascade water heater there is a big bang as if there is too much gass been feed to it...This happens almost 75% of the time..the other 25% it will light ok..At first I thought it was the wind blowing out the flame but I sheltered it ,to no avail.The igniter will click for no reason even when the flame is lit ( I say the flame is lit because there is heat from the vent outside) after the clicking stops the flame goes out and the red light comes on..Can you help please..
Ps when draining the tank using the drain plug out side I seem to have
broken the plug ie there is a small drip now...do you supply replacement seals/plugs
cheers
Finbar


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 12:48 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Your problem is simple to solve Finbar, you need a replacement burner module as it very much sound to me the burner itself is badly corroded.
These are £63 serviced exchange from me and sent on receipt of cheque to Arc Systems.
There are two types of drain bung, early pre June 1987 has a cross for the screwdriver and the later one has just a single slot.
Both are £6.50

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 2:26 PM
lordy
Joined 31 Aug 2005
1 posts

Hi there, have just bought a caravan and have no drain plug or sliding switch on top of fire for fanmaster.
My local dealer cannot source a drain plug(cross head) or fanmaster sliding control as they are no longer listed in truma or wholesaler catalogues.

Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks



ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 2:38 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Well I have both although I am running out of stock of the cross head drain bung and the slide switch is really exchange only.
Seems strange though you have a pre June 87 water heater and a post 97 fire??

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 2:52 PM
Finbar
Joined 17 Jul 2005
8 posts

Gary
cheers for the advice .
Could you provide me with the address to post the cheque of to and who to pay it to...does the £63 include postage..??and if I remember rightlyfrom previuos threads, you want the old module back..?? no problem..
could you also send me 2 drain bungs..(pre june 87..cross for screwdriver)..like to have a spare..!!!!
Let me know the total for the 2 bungs and the burner module + p&p.
Would also like details of how to remove and replace module please....does unit need resealed to caravan on outside ?? if so what is best stuff to use..??
thanks again Finbar...
ps cheque is waiting to be written and posted

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 5:49 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

£63 is inclusive the address is on my website>> http://www.arcsystems.biz and yes I do want the old one back after the new one arrives though.
The cost of ONE drain bung is £6.50 and you are only getting ONE...don't be greedy
Gary
P.S a drain bung to have as a spare can be obtained from any plumbers merchants that sell radiators? the plastic bungs in the ends of radiators that are discarded fit the threads of pre 87 drains and work reasonably well.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 6:35 PM
Doreen
Joined 31 Aug 2005
1 posts

I have just bought a 2nd hand caravan with a Carver 1800 gas fire. When it is lit the flame is very orange. Can anyone help?
Many thanks

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 7:58 PM
Finbar
Joined 17 Jul 2005
8 posts

cherers gary
cheque is on its way to you...
look forward to getting this damn thing fixed..

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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
31 August 2005, 9:03 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Orange or yellow?? the big difference being orange is little more that dust being burnt in the flame but yellow is incomplete combustion and that means carbon monoxide is being produced!!

Orange will be in flashes above the burner but if you look just on top of the burner the flame should be bright blue, it should also settle down and most of the orange disappear quite quickly.

Yellow will be in long lazy flames perhaps blue at the base but not tight and dancing purposely on the burner top as a correct flame should be.

Orange should clear itself while if yellow the fire will need immediate attention.


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
1 September 2005, 0:47 AM
Meljoe
Joined 30 Aug 2005
10 posts

Thanks for that link to your website, I must have been having a blonde moment.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
3 September 2005, 10:54 AM
Bob
Joined 3 Sep 2005
2 posts

Hi,

my autosleeper has a carver 2ge which has suddenly sprung a leak. It switches on ok but after a few minutes cold water starts to drip from the drain hole in the fibreglass tray under the heater. If you turn the heater off the drip stops, the pump is off and if you leave it a while the water gets hot, I have taken the cowl off but there is no sign of water anywhere! Any clues anyone?


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
3 September 2005, 3:26 PM
peter
Joined 15 Aug 2005
13 posts

hi there can u tell why when the CARVER (CASCADE) WATER HEATER is on there is a strong smell of gas but it is a light and water is hot i really dont konw why

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
4 September 2005, 9:41 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

You've lost me Bob?

"after a few minutes cold water starts to drip from the drain hole in the fibreglass tray under the heater".

Where?

"If you turn the heater off the drip stops, the pump is off and if you leave it a while the water gets hot",

It cannot get hot if it's switched off??

"I have taken the cowl off but there is no sign of water anywhere! Any clues anyone?"

There are plenty of places for it to leak inside, From both water inlet and outlet fittings, the tank seal or a corroded tank and bolts holding the electrical element corroding and allowing this seal to leak.



ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
4 September 2005, 9:54 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Peter, I think you are saying there is a strong smell of gas 'fumes' rather than leaking gas otherwise I doubt you would be around to ask the question!!!
What I think you will find is the gas burner is in a very poor state and the gas is not being completely burnt, this smell may well be accompanied by black smoke and soot...it will also include Carbon Monoxide??
You will need to remove the outer plastic cover and the inner alloy plate to expose the burner and watch what happens while it is lit. This should be done on a calm day or at least protect the burner from any wind, it's also useful to do it late in the day when the light is fading so as to see more clearly.
If you are in any doubt though get an expert to check it for you
and either way DO NOT use it until the problem is solved as the possibility of Carbon Monoxide getting in the van is deadly!!

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 September 2005, 3:56 PM
Bob
Joined 3 Sep 2005
2 posts

Sorry Gary, not well explained but have now delved deeper following your excellent dismantling instructions and found the heater element bolts have corroded letting water past the seal. Will call you to order the bits

Thanks Bob


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 September 2005, 5:25 PM
peter
Joined 15 Aug 2005
13 posts

just to say thanks and i will look at this right a way and i will let u allknow what it is like plus can u tell me how to clean it if i need to with many thanks peter

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
5 September 2005, 9:21 PM
Richard
Joined 22 Mar 2005
13 posts

hi everyone!

Firstly, Can I just re-thank Gary
Many moons ago ( page 2 !!! ) I used gary's information to cure my Cascade 2 of its fault of not staying lit.

this was march this year - Six month on and our cascade is still working like a dream - thank you so much - I owe you a pint !


Secondly - AS most of you are aware I have been holding copies of the cascade user guides on my webspace and continue to get emails from frustrated people trying to get to them

so to clear any further confusion
Manuals for the Carver Casacde 1 Heater and Carver Cascade 2 are here
http://www.ukwebb.plus.com/cascade

Also if anyone has the technical/maintenance guide and would like to add them to this list please email them to me and I will upload them for others to use

I WILL keep these on-line as long as possible as they are obviously being of use to many users

please visit the website of the caravan club I belong to - New members and visitors always welcome!
http://www.caldervalebcc.co.uk


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
6 September 2005, 0:05 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Thanks for that Richard...manuals are a never ending problem, more importantly and hopefully I will find chance to join you in that drink!!
Gary

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