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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 October 2005, 8:56 PM
Leanne
Joined 15 Oct 2005
2 posts

Hi
I know it has been asked before and it is considered very expensive, but my dad wants to convert his existing Cascade Mk2 to a GE. I understand that the plastic box to cover the electrics is no longer available but what exactly are the parts required to do this conversion.
Thanks in advance.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 October 2005, 10:13 PM
Boggy
Joined 4 Oct 2005
3 posts

Gary,

Thanks again for your guidance, I had a great weekend away and the heater work superbly. I have since ditched the Globestar as its way to small for our needs when not using an awning. Anyway, We now have an ABI Target 575. All the gas appliances work apart from not trying the heater as yet. The water heater is on the off side so is open to winds. I have read on here or your website that there is a danger of fire or carbon monoxide gas build up. We do have a carbon monoxide detector but you mention a cover which deflects the wind from the pilot light. Could you shed anymore light on this as we have a 14 month old girl and a 6 week old son. Untill we can reduce the risk, we will turn the water heater off over night and just use the heater in the early evening and switch off before bed to cut out gas emmisions altogether. I hope this makes sense as I'm not quite happy with the situation as you can appreciate. Also, the Globestar is for sale if anyone may be interested.


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 October 2005, 10:34 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Hi, You will need a new tank to take the new electric element and a seal kit, plus a possible new tie rod to hold it all together. This would only be needed if your Dad's Cascade is from the mid to late 80's. This lot is all available but perhaps the cheapest bit, that box is not.
In reality though this problem could be overcome by using a standard type square plastic box that can be found on the electrical shelves at B&Q etc or an electrical wholesalers, and then adjusted to fit.
Total worse case cost I think no more than £150 for the bits against the most expensive gas costs at about £1 a day for 24/7 hot water.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
15 October 2005, 11:10 PM
Leanne
Joined 15 Oct 2005
2 posts

Hi
Thanks for the reply. My dad has his caravan on a seasonal pitch and does spend a lot of time there. His thinking is the electric is already paid for in his site fees. He is a retired plumber/heating engineer so the conversion should be well within his capabilites. I said I would find try and find out what information I could for him.
Thanks again
Leanne

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 October 2005, 8:53 PM
Kev
Joined 16 Oct 2005
2 posts

Hi can anyone help? I'm new to the remarkable invention of "hot water" in my caravan, only had the 'van 1 month, my problem is the green and amber lights are on at the switch, the water heater worked fine until yesterday (Sat 15th) when these lights came on. At first I thought the gas had run out so changed the bottle. This had no effect, the lights remained on. The battery indicater tells me the battery is fully charged (it's a new battery - less than a month old), I've checked the fuses in the switch and the battery wiring, these are Ok so I'm at a loss. I could take the 'van back to the dealer but if it's something I have (or haven't) done I'm going to look a prat! Thanks - Kev


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
16 October 2005, 9:17 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

You could look a prat if you have not checked the negitive fuse properly and the fitter does!?
The amber is to show low voltage but does not come on until the voltage drops to about 4 volts which should mean everything has packed up well before this comes on. With an earth fuse blown in the control switch it will have an effect on the water heater but nothing else.
Usual cause is a bad earth somewhere and the fuse is the first thing to check...with a meter! as the wire will appear in tact. If that won't cure it check the fuse holders hold both ends of the fuse tightly. Hopefully that will cure it


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
17 October 2005, 10:29 PM
Kev
Joined 16 Oct 2005
2 posts

Thanks Gary, I'll try that.

Kev


ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
18 October 2005, 10:02 PM
Bryan
Joined 17 Oct 2005
1 posts

Hello Gary,the inlet valve on mine is white,can I change it for a black one,or are they not inter-changeable,thank you.
If not what is the difference?

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 October 2005, 0:49 AM
-  Edited by gary 19 October 2005, 0:51 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Yes Bryan fully interchangeable although it's got to be said the new ones are more susceptible to frost damage if you don't drain the system completely.
With that in mind as well as a new one, I can supply a new body for the earlier type if the 'innerds' of the old one are OK...and it's cheaper!!


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 October 2005, 5:45 PM
Roy
Joined 13 Sep 2005
3 posts

Hi Gary,
I received the refurbished Carver on Monday last. Thanks for your help.

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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
19 October 2005, 7:43 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Pleasure Roy, I have done another since and replied tonight to an email about a third!
As a matter of fact your old casting and the other have just come back from the machine shop repaired and ready for someone else.
It seemed doubtful this type of damage could be repaired but amazing what can be done with a milling machine and lathe in the right hands, very pleased to have saved them.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
20 October 2005, 3:30 PM
eddie
Joined 20 Oct 2005
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hello my carver cascade 2 water heater is playing up.when i turn it on it clicks for ages and then finally bursts into life,but when i finally manage to get it working the burner won't turn off.can u help please eddie

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
20 October 2005, 9:08 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

Yes Eddie it's very straight forward you need a new burner module and the sooner the better!!.
These are £63 serviced exchange from me and can be obtained by sending a cheque to Arc Systems at the address on my website using the link below


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 October 2005, 8:55 AM
ANNAJ464
Joined 22 Oct 2005
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Hi - We have a Carver Cascade 2 water heater. This last week were away in the caravan and on the 2nd morning woke up to find the floor wet through. Traced the leak to the water heater. Being new to tourers and their hot water heaters can you give us any clues as to the problem and cure/s? I would be very grateful as we need to use the caravan on a very regular basis.

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 October 2005, 11:05 AM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

There are several places for the Cascade to leak from and in no particular order these are
Hot and cold water connections cracked where they screw into the heat exchanger casting
The bolts that hold a fitted mains heating element corroded and loose.
The tank itself is corroded underneath and this will show as 'scabs' on the otherwise smooth smooth surface of the tank.
The tank to casting seal
Outside leaks could get back inside so check behind the flue cover for a cracked pressure relief valve in the top left corner, or the fusible plug in the fins behind and in the centre the square aluminium flue.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
22 October 2005, 12:13 PM
don
Joined 22 Oct 2005
1 posts

I have a Carver 2000 Fanmaster slide control type
Although fan functions no heat when using mains suppy Is this likely to be failed thermostat and would replacement slide control unit be a solution ? All wiring apears to be correctlly connected

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 October 2005, 11:30 AM
Paul
Joined 20 Jul 2005
8 posts

I have a Carver Cascade water heater that only has one light on it. What does it indicate when it's flashing, please?

ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 October 2005, 5:49 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
2288 posts

If it's the slide switch then I would think the lights do not show correctly, it should light one light in each position.
There are two elements which do 'blow' but I doubt both at the same time. You can check them by disconnecting the mains and removing the wiring cover above the gas valve, it's held by a single screw and then lift it up and out. You should get about 56 ohms across each element
This leaves the main control module which again do fail or the 'kettle' plug loose which is very common, a blown 10amp mains fuse or the MCB in the distribution unit has tripped.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 October 2005, 5:56 PM
gary
Joined 13 Mar 2002
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You have a Carver Cascade Mk1 Paul of 82 to 84 vintage and the flashing light shows a fault condition.
This could simply be you have run out of gas or if not it gets progressive worse!?.
There is a manual you can down load but I have not got the link with me, trawl back a couple of pages and you should find the link and this gives all the common reasons.


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ALL CARVER CASCADE WATER HEATER, GAS FIRE, FANMASTER,P4 QUESTIONS HERE
23 October 2005, 6:50 PM
ANNAJ464
Joined 22 Oct 2005
2 posts

Hi Gary - Thank you for your great advice. It was the bolts that had corroded. We have put a cheque in the post for the parts we asked you for. Again - many thanks and quick for the terrific advice - Jackie

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